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Friday Mar 14, 2025
Friday Mar 14, 2025
We’re at day zero of AI—so how can product managers keep up without getting left behind?
In this episode, host Rebecca Kalogeris sits down with Ron Green, AI expert, serial entrepreneur, and Co-founder & CTO of KUNGFU.AI. Ron has nearly 30 years of experience in AI, having overseen deployments across healthcare, government, retail, real estate, and financial services. He’s also the host of Hidden Layers: Exploring the People and Tech Behind AI, where he dives into the latest advancements shaping the industry.
Ron shares his insider perspective on AI’s rapid evolution, from the surprising power of generative AI (genAI) to the game-changing impact of reasoning models. He explains how these advancements are changing both the answers we get and the questions we ask, unlocking new capabilities while also introducing new risks.
For product professionals wondering how to integrate AI without getting overwhelmed, Ron offers practical advice:
- Make sure you’re solving a real problem.
- If you don’t see at least 10x ROI, don’t bother.
- Start small and scale—AI isn’t all or nothing.
Plus, Ron shares his favorite AI tools and what’s next beyond genAI.
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